Israel – Conservative Crusader Lies

by Dave on July 4, 2011

in Politics

I have been fact checking postings that some of my friends make on Facebook lately since it seems that the far right has decided that they no longer need to base anything in fact.  So I thought that I would start posting some of these informal fact checks here so they are saved in a place I can access in the future, instead of just on someone else’ wall of Facebook.  So here is the first.

Israel a Sponsor of Terror

Obama Puts Israel on ‘State Supporters of Terror’ List, Then Opens Diplomatic Relations With Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. This is from the site, Conservative Crusader.

Now that is some grabber for a headline, right?  But, I have the scoop on this.  This is a case of a radical group distorting facts and lying.  The radical group in this case is the Conservative Crusader.

The official “State Sponsors of Terrorism” list has the following countries on it. Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria. The following countries were once on the list and have been removed. Iraq, Libya, North Korea and South Yeman.

The article implies that Obama removed North Korea from the list while putting Israel on the list, but that is simply not true. Israel has never been on the list, and it was the Bush that removed North Korea from the list.

The article has this line in the first paragraph, and it is a direct lie “His latest outrage is the dual absurdities of, on one hand putting Israel on a list of state sponsors of terrorism”.  Here is a good article on the actual list.

Having said that, Israel was added to a list of 36 countries who “If a traveler from one of the countries is detained, the country’s inclusion on the list triggers a special check by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement division.” Sounds like a prudent policy to me. The list includes a number of other close US allies, like Turkey, Bahrain, Morocco and Philippines, as well as nations beset by internal fighting, like Sudan and Somalia.  This comes from the site the Jerusalem Post.  Now if they are not upset about this, then why are our radical right wingers?

So that is the first part of the dual accusation in this article. This is clearly lying and fear mongering since Israel is not even remotely considered to be a state sponsor of terrorism, and, the removal of North Korea from the list was done by Bush, not Obama.

Muslim Brotherhood

The second part of the post deals with the US recognizing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.  The article says:

That’s right, Obama has decided that the terrorists of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt deserve to be treated as a legitimate political body, one that official deserves recognition by the USA.

In explanation, an Obama administration official told the media that, “The political landscape in Egypt has changed, and is changing… It is in our interests to engage with all of the parties that are competing for parliament or the presidency.”

What makes this a big stretch of the truth is that it seems to be the natural thing to do.  I don’t think we make the judgment for recognition as a function of whether they believe the same thing that we believe, but we make that judgment based on their legitimacy to power in the country.  As far as I know, we do not dispute the legitimacy of the ruling party in Iran and recognize them.  Likewise, I bet we recognize the government in Russia even though we have more than a difference or two with them.


This article is clearly meant to instill fear in the radical right wing of the US.  That seems to be the over arching idea in right wing politics: to bring fear of others into their mind so we will not reach out to other people.  I can’t imagine anything less Christian.


MD July 7, 2011 at 7:29 am

don’t know how to reach you other than through this link.
read your question – “Next, how about one making peace with science?” – to scot mcknight, and thought you might be interested in

Dave July 7, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Thanks for that marty, checking it out.

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